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A Different Tail! Congestion,Sneezing,Mucus...and It's Not Herpes

sugarmeat3500

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Hi SphynxLair Family!

My name is Nikki & I have a confession...I have been lurking for 6 years...Yes, head hung low...6 years & this is my first post. I even lost my beloved 5 1/2 year old Sphynx Heru October 19, 2016 to Heart Failure and I still didnt reach out:cry:.

Well...today is different! After all of my lurking, I have seen a lot of post about congestion, nasal mucus, sneezing, wheezing, coughing, Herpes, allergies etc. . I have a story to share.... something to add to the mix as a probable cause that I have not really seen mentioned.

I purchased Blue (my Dwelf kitten) as a companion for Heru 3 days before Heru died. Heru must have sent Blue to me because I had no idea Heru was in the throws of heart failure...he had started coughing periodically the week before, so I made a vet appointment...you already know the rest..

The first week in November, Blue started sneezing, periodic coughing, then clear, runny mucus followed. His Eosinophil count was high, he had diarrhea & the vet thought he was allergic to his food. He was prescribed Clindamycin- didnt work (I already know how many times it has been said on Sphynxlair this doesn't work but the vet insisted). The RX food change did fix the diarrhea. 2 weeks later, the mucus turned yellow/green followed by snot rockets & runny eyes. He was prescribed Azithromycin- that changed the mucus back to clear, however his symptoms didn't change.

The vet prescribed Doxycycline (after I told her about this site and great results)..this had to be it! And it was! He was a brand new Kitty for the 2 weeks he was on it:shifty:.

March 7th...Next stop..the Specialist. The vet thought it had to be polyps & needed a Rhinoscopy:wideyed:...NO MA'AM! What will that bill look like? The Specialist suggested CBC, Cat Scan, Biopsy in both nostrils & ears, PCR test, the works (no rhinoscopy).. which I agreed to...All came back negative for aerobic bacteria, virus, nor polyps, nothing.

He still had the high Eosinophil count. $2500 later (not counting the other vet visits prior)....guess what worked....ear flushing & deep cleaning under sedation for the ear wax testing for bacteria/yeast.

He had major wax build up plugged deep down into his ear canals. This was holding fluid in his ears (found by CAT Scan). The ear & nasal canals work hand in hand...the fluid just backed up deeper into his nasal cavity because it had no where to go, it also caused periodic coughing because of back drip. For almost 5 months, no shaking his head or scratching, no fluid ever escaped, no smell, no infection or mites (he was swabbed on his first & second vet visit with me) they just looked like regular, dirty Sphynx ears that we know & love:happy: (well bald American Curl ears:cat:).

He had all of the symptoms of Feline Herpes that wouldn't go away yet my vet never thought it was.

I still don't know why the fluid was there in the first place...I held off on baths because he's been sick for so long. I use ear cleaner dripped onto cotton rounds. The Specialist suggested that allergies can show up in ears.

The moral of the story is....make checking your babies ears a priority at the vet or Specialist (preferable, not just a scope). Especially if nothing else reasonable has worked and you & the vet have exhausted all probables to no avail or before going down a long, expensive (emotional & financial) road for months or even years. Some of you have even had to give up your precious babies because the vet thought the severe "Herpes" symptoms was stress due to other animals or people in the home. Or the bills are just to great. No suggestions of serious ear issues.

The Specialist is still vexed that Blue has absolutely no issues anymore. She did not expect that clearing his ears would solve his problem. In her disbelief, she still wants him to take Doxycycline just in case there is a anaerobic bacteria (they don't test unless specific like Mycoplasma) & she also wants him to be on steroids short term & a de-wormer because the high Eosinophils point towards his cells fighting against allergy & or parasites. She believes he is allergic to chicken (that is all he eats, he hates fish) and gave an RX for a new protein food (i.e venison, rabbit, duck). Allergies is another beast and another post!

I hope this helps someone!
 

NinaGato

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First of all WELCOME!! So glad you finally joined.
Thank you so much for this gem of info.
Try rabbit as a new protein. I had to switch 4 sphynx at once because one had very severe food allergies and they all liked rabbit.
Post some pics of Blue. Would love to see those curly ears
 

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Hi SphynxLair Family!

My name is Nikki & I have a confession...I have been lurking for 6 years...Yes, head hung low...6 years & this is my first post. I even lost my beloved 5 1/2 year old Sphynx Heru October 19, 2016 to Heart Failure and I still didnt reach out:cry:.

Well...today is different! After all of my lurking, I have seen a lot of post about congestion, nasal mucus, sneezing, wheezing, coughing, Herpes, allergies etc. . I have a story to share.... something to add to the mix as a probable cause that I have not really seen mentioned.

I purchased Blue (my Dwelf kitten) as a companion for Heru 3 days before Heru died. Heru must have sent Blue to me because I had no idea Heru was in the throws of heart failure...he had started coughing periodically the week before, so I made a vet appointment...you already know the rest..

The first week in November, Blue started sneezing, periodic coughing, then clear, runny mucus followed. His Eosinophil count was high, he had diarrhea & the vet thought he was allergic to his food. He was prescribed Clindamycin- didnt work (I already know how many times it has been said on Sphynxlair this doesn't work but the vet insisted). The RX food change did fix the diarrhea. 2 weeks later, the mucus turned yellow/green followed by snot rockets & runny eyes. He was prescribed Azithromycin- that changed the mucus back to clear, however his symptoms didn't change.

The vet prescribed Doxycycline (after I told her about this site and great results)..this had to be it! And it was! He was a brand new Kitty for the 2 weeks he was on it:shifty:.

March 7th...Next stop..the Specialist. The vet thought it had to be polyps & needed a Rhinoscopy:wideyed:...NO MA'AM! What will that bill look like? The Specialist suggested CBC, Cat Scan, Biopsy in both nostrils & ears, PCR test, the works (no rhinoscopy).. which I agreed to...All came back negative for aerobic bacteria, virus, nor polyps, nothing.

He still had the high Eosinophil count. $2500 later (not counting the other vet visits prior)....guess what worked....ear flushing & deep cleaning under sedation for the ear wax testing for bacteria/yeast.

He had major wax build up plugged deep down into his ear canals. This was holding fluid in his ears (found by CAT Scan). The ear & nasal canals work hand in hand...the fluid just backed up deeper into his nasal cavity because it had no where to go, it also caused periodic coughing because of back drip. For almost 5 months, no shaking his head or scratching, no fluid ever escaped, no smell, no infection or mites (he was swabbed on his first & second vet visit with me) they just looked like regular, dirty Sphynx ears that we know & love:happy: (well bald American Curl ears:cat:).

He had all of the symptoms of Feline Herpes that wouldn't go away yet my vet never thought it was.

I still don't know why the fluid was there in the first place...I held off on baths because he's been sick for so long. I use ear cleaner dripped onto cotton rounds. The Specialist suggested that allergies can show up in ears.

The moral of the story is....make checking your babies ears a priority at the vet or Specialist (preferable, not just a scope). Especially if nothing else reasonable has worked and you & the vet have exhausted all probables to no avail or before going down a long, expensive (emotional & financial) road for months or even years. Some of you have even had to give up your precious babies because the vet thought the severe "Herpes" symptoms was stress due to other animals or people in the home. Or the bills are just to great. No suggestions of serious ear issues.

The Specialist is still vexed that Blue has absolutely no issues anymore. She did not expect that clearing his ears would solve his problem. In her disbelief, she still wants him to take Doxycycline just in case there is a anaerobic bacteria (they don't test unless specific like Mycoplasma) & she also wants him to be on steroids short term & a de-wormer because the high Eosinophils point towards his cells fighting against allergy & or parasites. She believes he is allergic to chicken (that is all he eats, he hates fish) and gave an RX for a new protein food (i.e venison, rabbit, duck). Allergies is another beast and another post!

I hope this helps someone!
Hello @sugarmeat3500 - great info! Hopefully it will help another some day, thanks for sharing and welcome aboard! :)
 

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Welcome to sphynxlair, good to have you.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Thanks for the great information, I'm sure it will
help other's.
 

sugarmeat3500

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Thank you so much for the warm welcomes! It has been a long time coming. You all are really family to me & didn't know it! I've turned to Sphynxlair as my holy grail for years...... I've cheered on fellow Sphynx Mommies & Daddies... Been upset & prayed when there are issues & problems ...and cried at the loss of our beloved cat babies. Thank you so very much for your condolence.

@Catzzzmeow yes, Blue had the PCR test. No issues. The Specialist suggested that it covers the major viruses & aerobic bacteria, not anaerobic bacteria... That would be a google search to specify what culprits are differentiated by the two.

@ginagato, note taken on the rabbit...I was actually leaning towards that.
I will try to post pics of Blue, I'm not computer savvy!

@admin, I truly hope this information gives another perspective and can help someone! I had searched high & low for months online & had run across 1 clinical site that mentioned ear cleaning & flushing as part of the process along with antibiotic therapy. I still did not think of it as something pertaining to Blue's situation. Boy was I wrong!
 

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@sugarmeat3500 welcome to sphynxlair as an active member! Lurking is good, being active is even better:). Thanks for sharing the info on Blue's health. What a long way before finding the right treatment. Glad Blue is doing well now. Can imagine you felt desperate sometimes.

Now I'm very curious to meet Blue of course so hopefully you manage to post some pics!

Natasja
 

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Welcome! And thank you for such great info!
It may well help someone else, as does much of what's posted here. :)
 

sugarmeat3500

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This is my baby boy Dwelf Blue (Azul if your fancy!) at 5 months old. You can see hints of his blue/gray markings. They have gotten much darker since this picture (He is now 9 months). He wont stay still long enough for a good pic! I will try again this weekend. He was about 6 lbs at 5 months...He is now 8 lbs. Dwelfs are really small...the females are usually around 6 lbs full grown & the males 9 lbs. Blue came out of the womb with a grown man face..like a old soul..it is so funny! His ears are a monster to clean!
 

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@sugarmeat3500 Blue is gorgeous! What a handsome boy he is. Those awesome blue eyes and his cute ears (although impossible to clean, I have a little elf). And that darkish nose. So adorable!
 

sugarmeat3500

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@Toa and Ross Thank You! Maybe you can share some Dwelf/Elf ear cleaning techniques! The Vet Specialist is suggesting that I have his ears flushed & deep cleaned twice a year...but of course that requires sedation. Hopefully, changing his protein will assist in a reduction of wax.
 

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OH MY GOSH. What a story.

First, I'm elated you came out of the dark lurker closet and are now basking in the sun of the Lair!!! YAY!

Second, the story of how Azul came into your life just before Heru passed (so sorry for your loss) sent a shiver down my spine. There is so much about animals we don't know. You are blessed.

And finally, thank you for sharing this medical mystery... eventually solved... with us. Wow. This is really good information. Thank you.

Now please share more stories and pics!!! :) And again, welcome!
 

Thunderheader

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So sorry for your loss.

Thanks for the info., I would not have thought ears would be a possible cause... My boys ears are always dirty.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
 

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@sugarmeat3500 unfortunally I don't have great tips/routines for ear cleaning the elf(dwelf) ears. I use a qtip and try to get as mich earwax as possible. Which is not much. My vet says it's not a big deal cause as long as the ears are 'healthy' it cleans itself. She says not do too much about the ears and let it regulate itself. She would recomment the same with the sphynx ears but says she understand it's not a nice view looking at all the earwax so says it's okay to clean them.

Vets here are very down to earth and always say "let nature take care of it". Never know if that's for the best or not.
 
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