Brown eye spot?

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  1. Hillary

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    Hey guys!!

    Norman has had a weird brown dot on his eye for the past month or so.

    About a month ago I noticed him squinting and not being able to open his eye fully and the next day was completely fine and had this new brown spot on his eyeball. When looking from the side it does look flat but looks as though it's on top of the eyeball. I took him to the vet that day and they tested for ulcers and another type of eye disease and it came back negative. vet said it could be a bruised eye but wasn't sure and prescribed drops that did nothing. It had not brown in size or anything but is still concerning that it hasn't shrunk or gone away.

    It doesn't seem to hurt or bother him at all so I'm not sure what it could possibly be!
    Im just curious if anybody has had a similar experience or seen this before?
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    I was intrigued by your post, so I did some digging on google. Apparently, brown spots in the eye are fairly common for senior cats, but can appear as early as 6 years old. They also can be caused by trauma to the iris. The benign spots are referred to as Iris Melanosis. Melanosis is as harmless as a freckle or mole, and does not irritate or impair the cat in any way. However, if they begin to grow, change shape, texture or size, you should see the vet, as it may have changed into Iris Melanoma.

    Cat’s Iris Melanosis

    From the look of the photo, his spot appears to simply be just that, a spot! How old is your Norman?
     
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      With any changes in eyes it is good for a Vet to just do a check. But to calm you we also saw our boy we had have changes in his eyes which were deemed normal.
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      Thank you!! That settles my worries and he'll be 2 years old this November.
       
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      Thank you for the reply it definitely settles my nerves knowing it's not just norman that has this!
       
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      Don't know if it works the same for cats and human but i have brown spots in my eyes too. It's normal and nothing is wrong with my eyes. I did get the spots when I was around 6 years old or so.
       
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      @admin, might this info become a sticky?
       
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        @Hillary , ((hugs))) this looks exactly like my Yoda's eye this year .
        I wrote a thread
        I brought to vet right away and learned it was a cormeal sequestrum
        Caught it early , got meds on board amd avoided a costly surgery .
        ***** idoxurine medication. Eye drops worked amazing

        I took him to the eye specialist because it developed a secondary inflammation after the sequestrum healed .
        He got Oflaxacin meds amd I can happily say he is healed and no eye surgery

        Please be sure to ask your vet to rule out a cormeal sequestrum .
        It looked just like this in the beginning

        Here are earlier threads
        Corneal Sequestrums...

        Corneal Sequestrum ?

        Will be following closely
        I can't diagnosis but wanted to share this to discuss with your vet To err on the side of caution .

        He is all healed , no Surgery
        (It looked just like your pic for a couple of months the n started to worsen )
        So off to the vet

        Hope a spot is just a spot but wamted to share my Yodas experience
        I would vet check for peace of mind and early intervention if necessary
         
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        Thank you!! I will surely be taking him to the vet to rule that out..i just read a little more on it and its definitely not something i want to mess around with and wait!! I'll keep everybody posted
         
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          I didn't want to alarm you but it looked like my Yodas eye in the beginning so wanted to share .

          My vet had him on idoxurine drops and referred me to an eye specialist -
          He was on eye drops 4x a day

          Yoda was on on Famciclivor 3 x and I-drop Vet Gel eye drops from the eye specialist .

          All paws crossed its a harmless spot
           
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          Thank you @Yoda mom I went to the vets with Norman today and they seemed stumped at first till i mentioned the corneal sequestrum. This vet trip they did another stain test and the spot was now picking up stain. I now have to bring him to a ophthalmologist but its not till the 25th!

          I just feel sick knowing it's something seriously wrong:(
           
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            So sorry...so happy @Yoda mom has been able to help/suggest. Please keep updating us. Positive vibes are sent.
             
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              @Hillary , I kmow how you feel.. I had to wait to get my boy to the eye specialist

              **My regular vet was great and gave me meds to get on board while we were waiting for his appointment .
              she prescribed idoxurine .

              Did your vet give many meds to apply while you wait ?
              What was the vets diagnosis?

              The eye specialist was great - the famciclivor and I drop eye gel cleared it all up

              the combination of the initial idoxurine followed by the specialist (out the door cost at specialist was $340 with the testing and meds )

              Please stay positive -
              I also called the specialist to get on their cancellation list .

              Let me know what meds your vet out your baby om till you see the specialist


              Positive head smooches and hugs sent

              Following closely !

              Also - I took photos of his eye to keep a log to bring to the specialist

              Glad you are taking Norman to the specialist for a professional diagnosis -
              stay positive! He may not have anything serious going on -
              Specialist was very comforting and yours will do the same and let you know exactly what you are dealing with - it may be superficial iris spots.
              So hang tight! Stay positive !
               
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              @Yoda mom Well that's the thing, the vet was stumped and said they had only seen 1 other case of corneal sequestrum which is a little disheartening. They just seemed to not be able to tell me much, The vet did the stain test and then tried to scrape it off with a cotton swab which was also alarming to me

              I'm going to call the eye specialist and ask to get on the cancellation list for sure, but apparently she only comes to my area 1 or 2 times a month.. I got sterile eye gel drops (isathal) that were prescribed so I will continue with those until the specialist. I'm just hoping it's not a case where he has to have surgery or anything, thats my biggest fear!

              Had you noticed it changing or getting bigger before you saw the specialist?
               
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                @Hillary . Yes . It did change got darker and bigger and more inflamed looking
                It was at the apx 1 o'clock position of his eye

                Do you see any changes ?

                Stay positive ! Will try to find my earlier pics
                My boys got real bad lookimg I was Sooo stressed

                He is purrfectly healed now.. no surgery

                You don't know if it's a sequestrum for sure ..so thats what the specialist can rule out

                My Sphynx got two uncommon things my vet hasn't seen often
                One got "pillow foot " misdiagnosed at first by my first vet as an abrasion

                My other , the corneal sequestrum with secondary inflammation to it

                His eye got ugly before the meds kicked in - my vet told me later she thought for sure hewould need surgery .
                We are relieved the meds were successful
                 
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                @Hillary , his eye started as a lighter brown discoloration spot on the upper left corner 1 o'clock position .
                I don't even have a pic of it bcz it was so superficial .

                Then it suddenly turned into a brown bump that vet thought could slough off - some do - with medications I let him skip his spa day I didn't want shampoo in his eye or stress him more .

                He was given meds and referral to the eye specialist . Chart notes faxed by my vet before appointment .

                At the specialist , she's re-stained his eye
                did an eye exam checking for ectropian , entropian , Glaucoma. Etc. very thorough.
                Wish I went straight to the specialist !

                "To my surprise she told me the corneal sequestrum had healed with the idoxurine Oflaxcin drops given by my regular vet -

                but now he presented with what she said was a secondary inflammation keratosis that can follow a corneal sequestrum ."
                That's nasty lookimg pic I attached . I really thought he would need surgery .

                I was diligent with meds and vets instructions - now he is all healed
                Last pic about s month later . (Sorry bad iPad pics) the last pic shows a white area but there just lighting
                 

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                @Yoda mom no change in the eye at all and it's been a little more than a month now. If anything the spot has gotten more of a precise spot and smaller with less brown discoloration around the edges. Although now it looks like a little 'scab' on top of the eye and isn't lying flat anymore. They said they could see blood vessels going to the spot as well?

                I'm just concerned with having to wait almost another month to see a specialist and risk any sight loss or anything. He doesnt even seem to know it's there and doesnt appear as though its hurting him.

                I'm trying hard to stay positive but of course it's my little buddy and it's always scary when something is wrong. I'll keep you guys posted and thanks again for letting me know what it could possibly be!
                 
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                @Hillary My Yodas Youncan see in the pic looked like a little raised scab too -
                I kept calling to get him in to the specialist sooner .
                I also called the vet to ask for another specialist I perhaps could see sooner .

                It didn't bother him at all - never scratched at it
                Even when the secondary inflammation keratosis in the nasty pic developed he acted like nothing was wrong and what the heck was I doing to him giving him drops

                It does sound very similar to Yoda to be honest
                I swear they got tired of me calling to get in sooner and bugged them about the cancellation list -
                Nicely ..

                It may not be a sequestrum but presents like my Yodas
                I would definitely ask the specialist to rule out corneal sequestrum

                Is there another office they have ?
                Sometimes specialist have two locations - mine was an hour away but was able to get it in
                Heck I would be Google researching car omly vets to call them and ask them if they can give names of eye specialist? Perhaps the state vet university hospital has a name of a specialist to see sooner ?
                Yoda had it for a few weeks before I could get in - I totally get it

                Does your vet think idoxurine and Oflaxacin would be indicated?
                I am not familar with the drops you have now - have to look it up
                 
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                @Hillary I just did a google search for "animal eye specialist canada"
                Several listed
                Not sure which in your area your vet could refer to
                Usually can be done with a phone call to your vet explaining you are trying to get Norman in sooner . Vet may not realize they are booked

                Just brain storming -
                Take a deep breathe. I was stressed too
                You do have drops so hopeful will help to you get in for an actual diagnosis
                 
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                @Yoda mom thanks so much for the reassurance, I've tried calling numerous time and the only specialist in my area is triple booked in every clinic she works out of!

                I need to ask,how long before it had progressed to those first and second pictures? I'm starting to notice when I pull back Normas eye lid there is alot more redness surrounding the eye and looks irritated but the black 'scab' is not any different. I emailed the vet because I was told to do so by the receptionist and let's just say bed side manner is not their expertise! I couldn't get any questions answered..

                At this point we have no choice but to wait and hope his eye doesnt change, he doesnt seem to be in pain but I pray the wait doesnt progress that too:(
                 
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                  @Hillary ,
                  I kmow how much it sucks to wait -- been there with my boy -
                  The first pic to the second pic was about a 4-6 weeks

                  The first pic was week at vet
                  The second pic was week waiting to get into the specialist . I was stressed out .
                  It looked aweful .. All we could do was wait

                  I kept giving the idoxurine drops from my vet (they ordered it from a pet phar,why amd I picked up im vet office )
                  He got the idoxurine drops when it was like pic #1

                  I thought it worsened to pic #2
                  The specialist saw him as he was in pic #2 and examined him carefully .

                  I was shocked when she said the corneal sequestrum had healed ! Really?
                  Yikes it looked so bad .

                  Eye specialist told me it is not uncommon for them to develop a secondary inflammation keratosis after the cormeal sequestrum.

                  Specialist said could be corona related . recommended not to test bcz can get false positives.
                  she recommended not testing and move forward to her treatment plan.
                  Which was the awesome Famciclivor amd vet I drops

                  I was amazing he never rubbed at his eye .
                  He got tired of the eye drop routine . he never missed a dose -
                  He actually easily let me apply the drops several times a day .
                  Of course I told him good boy amd immediate treat -
                  It healed purrfectly

                  Norman's appointment isn't too far out to rule out cormeal sequestrum .
                  Hang tight
                  You have enough of the drops you are applying till then?

                  Head smooches and positve vibes!

                  Do you have a new pic?
                   
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                  @Yoda mom yeah I think i have more than enough drops to get us by to his appointment, it actually looks a bit better today after a week of consistent drops 2x a day.

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                  Looks alot less red around the corners and the spot looks more precise than before with less discoloration. But still looks really irritated
                   
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                    Norman has gone back again to the vets because his eye was looking very red and the blood vessels look extremely irritated today going towards/into the "scab" I saw a different vet and hes now on tobramycin drops and has a cone to wear until we see the specialist so he doesnt rub his eye.

                    Little guy isn't going to be happy for a while lol
                     
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                      Positive vibes keep going his way. Thanks for updating this thread. Your info will help others in the future.
                       
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                      @Hillary Awhh((hugs))))
                      So sorry you smd your baby are goimg thru this - here for you
                      Believe me I get it

                      I did not have to use a cone on my boy

                      Is he scratching at it?
                      Healing head smooches to Norman

                      Can you email these pic to the specialist amd see if they can get Norman in sooner ?

                      Ps. Of the tobramycin doesn't work be sure to ask so but the meds thst worked for my boy
                      Ofloxacin drops , idoxurine , amd famciclivor
                      He also got I -drops
                       

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