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Clawed Monet

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I have a beautiful 7 year old Peter Bald Russian Shynx who is going through a medical nightmare. We have been to the vet 5 times in 10 days and two separate vets are unclear how to treat her or what she has.

Symptoms :
•Large crusty sores all over he body and face
•Scabs become pustules and break casing bleeding and oozing
*Note: she is still eating regularly, drinking regularly and has been using her cat box.
There is no change in her food or her environment and her energy is still regular*

The vets have done scrapes and a biopsy and have ruled out;

Atopic dermatitis
Over active yeast caused wounds
Skin cancer
Autoimmune disorder

the bacteria found on slides is not rod shaped (which are more resistant to antibiotics) yet a typical blob shape.

she is currently on:
•Prednisolone 5G twice daily for pain
•Gabapentin (steroid) 50g twice daily
•Clinacin Solution 2pz twice daily
•lysine pimp twice daily. It’s been two weeks

I’m coming to the conclusion that she is going to need to be put down and end this suffering.

If ANYONE CAN HELP, if ANYONE HAS A SUGGESTION, I’m begging you to please reply!
 

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Bailey21

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Oh my goodness. Many hugs to you, that looks very painful and I'm sure awful for you and your baby. I don't have any helpful suggestions since I've never dealt much with skin issues, but tagging @Toa and Ross @Catzzzmeow @Yoda mom who may have more experience with skin issues. Praying you find a fix for your baby girl.

Did this just appear randomly 10 days ago? Is it worsening?
 

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Hi there. Bless your sweet baby. My stomach dropped at the images and knowing how much pain she must be in. I notice none of the medications she is on are pain relievers. I would like for you to ask to have Tramadol to give her every 8 hrs as needed, the dose is 12.5 mg (a ¼ of the 50mg tablets). It should relieve much of her pain.

A few questions:
Has she been outside lately?
When did this start?
Is it progressing?
Was it a sudden onset?
Do you notice any sores on areas other than skin? (Ie inside the mouth or eyelids)
Has she received any vaccines or other injections in the 2 week period before symptoms started?
Any other new medications?

After doing some research, I would like for you to look at a few things I found and see if they seem like what she might have:
*sporotrichosis (this one I think is most likely)
*toxic epidermal necrolysis
*deep pyoderma
*mange
*calicivirus
*erythema
*leprosy

I know that’s a pretty long list. If you can answer the questions maybe we can narrow it down.

Please don’t give up on her yet. I know it’s excruciating to watch your beloved go through this, but let’s see if we can figure this out together. You will buy a little time and not have to see her suffer so much if you get that Tramadol I wrote about. Trust me.


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Did they test on Uticaria Pigmentosa. That's an auto immune disease. Since the rash is so bad it looks like the body is attacking itself.

I read they give prednisolone. Maybe ask if they can switch to prednison. It's know as very good for skin issues.

Sending lots on healing vibes
 

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Has she been outside lately?
No! She’s an indoor cat with an enclosed patio

When did this start?
10 days ago, it came on acute and FAST

Is it progressing?
It’s not being clearing up. The only scabs will heal but new sores will arise

Was it a sudden onset?
Within a week she was covered

Do you notice any sores on areas other than skin? (Ie inside the mouth or eyelids)
Inside her ears are terrible and sad of this morning her toes and between her nails

Has she received any vaccines or other injections in the 2 week period before symptoms started?
She received a herpes vaccination 6 months ago

Any other new medications?
No medications other than what’s she’s on now

The vets have also ruled out mange and ringworm big THANK YOU, I will look into the rest!


I know that’s a pretty long list. If you can answer the questions maybe we can narrow it down. My heart is in agony watching her and I just don’t want her to suffer but I’m doing all I can.
 

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Has she been outside lately?
No! She’s an indoor cat with an enclosed patio

When did this start?
10 days ago, it came on acute and FAST

Is it progressing?
It’s not being clearing up. The only scabs will heal but new sores will arise

Was it a sudden onset?
Within a week she was covered

Do you notice any sores on areas other than skin? (Ie inside the mouth or eyelids)
Inside her ears are terrible and sad of this morning her toes and between her nails

Has she received any vaccines or other injections in the 2 week period before symptoms started?
She received a herpes vaccination 6 months ago

Any other new medications?
No medications other than what’s she’s on now

The vets have also ruled out mange and ringworm big THANK YOU, I will look into the rest!


I know that’s a pretty long list. If you can answer the questions maybe we can narrow it down. My heart is in agony watching her and I just don’t want her to suffer but I’m doing all I can.
As suddenly as it came on we are almost certainly dealing with a contamination of some sort. Could be bacterial, fungal, or parasitic. My guess is fungal.

I wish I was near you and I’d come pop some Tramadol in her.


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@Clawed Monet First of all, I feel so sad for you and your baby!! What an awful thing to have to got through! But please don't give up - we will help you find a solution.

Based on what you are describing I agree with @Toa and Ross that it sounds like an acute type of autoimmune disease of the skin. I have just been reading about Pemphigus and it sounds A LOT like what your poor baby has;

"Pemphigus is a general designation for a group of autoimmune skin diseases involving ulceration and crusting of the skin, as well as the formation of fluid-filled sacs and cysts (vesicles), and pus filled lesions (pustules). Some types of pemphigus can also affect the skin tissue of the gums. An autoimmune disease is characterized by the presence of autoantibodies: antibodies that are produced by the system, but which act against the body's healthy cells and tissues – just as white blood cells act against infection. In effect, the body is attacking itself. The severity of the disease depends on how deeply the autoantibody deposits into the skin layers."

**** The links I found are copied in below - please have a read!

Symptoms and Types

Foliaceus

  • Scales, crust, pustules, shallow ulcers, redness, and itching of the skin
  • Footpad overgrowth and cracking
  • Occasional vesicles: fluid-filled sacs/cysts in the skin
  • The head, ears, and footpads are the most commonly affected; this often becomes generalized over the body
  • Gums and lips may be affected
  • It is common for the nipples and nail beds to be affected in cats
  • Swollen lymph nodes, generalized swelling, depression, fever, and lameness (if footpads are involved); however, patients are often in otherwise good health
  • Variable pain and itchy skin
  • Secondary bacterial infection is possible because of cracked or ulcerated skin
Erythematosus
  • Mainly the same as for pemphigus foliaceus
  • Lesions are usually confined to the head, face, and footpads
  • Loss of color in lips is more common than with other pemphigus forms
Vulgaris
  • The most serious of the pemphigus types
  • More severe than pemphigus foliaceus and erythematosus
  • Ulcers, both shallow and deep, blisters, crusted skin
  • Affects gums, lips, and skin; may become generalized over the body
  • Mouth ulcers are frequent, may result in loss of appetite
  • The underarm and groin areas are often involved
  • Itchy skin and pain
  • Anorexia, depression, fever
  • Secondary bacterial infections are common


Skin Disease, Autoimmune (Pemphigus) in Cats | petMD

Autoimmune Skin Disease in Cats
 

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@Clawed Monet I know you said in your first post that the vets had ruled out autoimmune disorders - can you tell us anything more about how they ruled them out and why?

Edit: Have the vets you've seen not mentioned referring you to a dermatology specialist? It seems neither of them specialise in skin issues, and it sounds like that's what you need right now
 
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I have nothing to offer. But I just wanted to tell you my heart is heavy for you and your baby and I'm sending love andprayers. Please don't give up on her, the gabapentin must be keeping her out of pain since she is doing everything normal, energy, food, potty etc.. THAT IS GREAT NEWS AND SAYS SO MUCH ABOUT HOW SHE IS FEELING.. Give it some time to get to the bottom of it. I know either way your heart is broken.. love and hugs to you xxxoooo

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I would recommend a a specialist/dermatologist. Did they do a skin scrape? Just know we are here for you and your baby.


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@Clawed Monet sending a lair full of prayers and positive vibes. You got this, and we are here for you... agree with a specialist dermatologist consul

when I first saw the pics, it immediately reminded me of my dog Sam who went thru hell . I changed his food and we put him on apoquel that is used in severe cases for kitties... ( he is allergic to benedryl and broke out more... and his face swelled, then he was allergic to the antibiotics ... we went thru miserable hell... I get it and sending you the biggest hug.)

you can have your vets office fax over the chart notes a dermatolgist specialist. and perhaps contact a vet university in the area.

just brain storming ... hormonal related? is she spayed ?
my heart goes out to you and your sweetie... prayers for a diagnosis and successful treatment..

please please keep us updated.. we are here for you and your sweetie
 
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I have very positive feed back for apoquel also. That poor darling. I agree with others pain relief is vital. Its heart breaking but the correct meds could clear it as fast as it appeared. Its really upset me. Fingers crossed xx
 

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@Clawed Monet read this long article . you can skip the the last part mentioning mastocystic dermatitis in rex cats ..saw this condition mentioned several places with nakid breeds... .. just a hmmmm to ask specialist to rule out...

I noticed the dexamethasone mentioned that was the same meds my sam dog got that worked amazing..

I know we cant diagnosis but definitely share thoughts for specialist to rule out to bring relief to you and your sweetie

continued prayers and hugs
 

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I showed my husband... His first thought was poison oak. Any other animals like a dog you have that goes outside where they could possibly get into it? My cats always rub their faces on our dog.

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How long ago did you turn on the heat in your house? Does it coinside with her breakout? Is she exposed to a heated blanket? I had a client whose yorkie was having leasions/hairloss/scabs and he was getting thermal burns from a heated blanket.

The scabs she has remind me more of burns or chemical exposure.

I am so sorry you all are going through this. She is quite the trooper.

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Looks like you have some excellent possibilities to have your vet investigate, but as others have said a dermatologist may be your best bet. I am so sorry you are both going through this. Sending lots of healing vibes your way. Please keep is posted.
 

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@Clawed Monet thinking of you and sending a continued lair full of positive vibes and a big hug

please keep us updated... I always worry like one of my very own... all paws are lair family

tagging @kauna and her Agnes for any suggestions to ask the vet to rule out
 

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I’m so sorry, poor baby :( This is heartbreaking! I hope and pray that any of the ideas given here help your vets make a breakthrough!!!


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@Clawed Monet Not sure where u are at now with your sweet baby, but I asked my dad who used to be a vet ages ago and he says this reminds him of a pet he treated that had burying mites. When I reiterated that your cat is an indoor one and that a skin scrape has already been done he just mentioned that sometimes a skin scrape can be a hit or miss depending on the area captured for a sample...he says there are def things your cat can take internally to get rid of what seems to be a skin infection, given the sudden onset that seems to progress/persist. I brought up the possibility of an autoimmune issue and he says it’s possible but rare given the aforementioned symptoms. He says skin issues are the hardest to treat when there is a lack of positive ID given the time needed to do an elimination game first before finding an appropriate treatment. I hope your vet has already referred you to dermatologist if they haven’t already.

Stay strong and please don’t give up ❤*hugs* staying tune for updates.
 

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*sigh

I think about this angel every day.


Love and Sphynx ~ It’s all you need
 
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