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How to Detect fraud sphynx cat adoption ads

Dublin Riis

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@Condo commando I agree. The cost of kittens usually is for the upkeep of everything behind the scenes. What we see as potential buyers is just an ADORABLE kitty that we MUST have! What the breeder sees is upkeep of food, litter, vet bills for preliminary care, travel fees for shows and show fees. There are breeders out there who will neuter/spay BEFORE being placed in a home. Don't forget there may also be the pet insurance a kitty may come with.
 

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Just had my first experience with an attempted scammer. They posted in Houston. However, upon contact, they said they were in El Paso, and posted the add around Texas. Further research pulled up a number outside of Garland, TX. Their first request was for a Western Union transfer. I promptly declined that offer. Their next offer was through PayPal, but using the "Friends and Family" option. Again, I declined.

Then they started shooting off email after email, texting, as well as calling me once. These emails included pictures, as well as verbiage that was to pull at my heart strings. I decided to do some more fishing with them before I turned them into Google as a scam. After further contact, they stated the delivery company would call and ask for a Google verification password. At this point, I was positive it was a scam.

Not sure if it is OK to post their contact info here so that others can avoid dealing with them.

Lucky for me, I do not make fast emotional decisions.
 

Yoda mom

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@Brandyb053108 kudos for you doing your research
We can't post specific names but if anyone is looking to adopt in Texas they can PM you to verify they are not dealing with the same scammers
 

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Just had my first experience with an attempted scammer. They posted in Houston. However, upon contact, they said they were in El Paso, and posted the add around Texas. Further research pulled up a number outside of Garland, TX. Their first request was for a Western Union transfer. I promptly declined that offer. Their next offer was through PayPal, but using the "Friends and Family" option. Again, I declined.

Then they started shooting off email after email, texting, as well as calling me once. These emails included pictures, as well as verbiage that was to pull at my heart strings. I decided to do some more fishing with them before I turned them into Google as a scam. After further contact, they stated the delivery company would call and ask for a Google verification password. At this point, I was positive it was a scam.

Not sure if it is OK to post their contact info here so that others can avoid dealing with them.

Lucky for me, I do not make fast emotional decisions.
Hello !
Well let me say this ! I would probably have taken them at face value and lost my money ! Thank you so much for sharing this with us and giving us the heads up ... there really are a lot of people myself included would see the advert see the pictures and fall in love ! On Instagram I have seen some of the most beautiful little naked babies ! And been put of because they deliver world wide .. they do ask for hefty deposits . But it puts me off because of the distance ..
it is only because of people like your self that people like me don’t get ripped off !!
But again all to sad plenty of people do lose their hard earned saved up cash !!
Keep on searching these frauds out
Thank you xxx
 

Stevieraek

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Having sort of the same issue here. The Cattery seems to be legit but wants a Walmart money transfer (deposit or full amount) before I can even come see the kittens . Plus their amount is only 800 which seems sketchy to me because my
Red male was 1600. Now a hairless for 800 would be great , but I’ve never heard of them being so cheap . Looking for a reputable Cattery , but also not looking to spend 1600 again :/
 

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@Stevieraek Big red flag to me!
I have 4 adoptees and would run when I saw these ads for money upfront not seeing kitties etc. some will copy paste steal pics too!
even though my heart was torn I knew to go with my gut
Usually if I ask for a pic of the kitty with today’s dste newspaper or an odd time llike a soda or water bottle they would’ve never reply back
I asked for vets number to verify smd they would not call bsck either

They prey on our sphynx love

The right one will find you !

Stay positve I got two from a member
A retiree from a reputable breeder
Amd ome got lucky wasn’t scammed off a hoobly Ad
- she later ran th exact sob story Ad for another kitty

The most I pad was $600 for papered fettered HCM scanned spayed all records and shots thst was imortted for waaayyy more than . My adoption

Feel free to PM me any ads for an extra peek
 
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Furrlessfurrvr

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I LOVE this suggestion. If at all possible I’d say it’s safer to do a transaction in person. Not only do you get to meet your kitten/cat. But you also don’t have to put them through the stress of travel. I had to drive an hour out to get Mishka. And she wasn’t too happy about the ride back!
 

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@Furrlessfurrvr I have asked if they would like to meet for transfer at the police department and got hung up on the first few sphynx I considered before my current adoptee crew

(@Furrlessfurrvr For car ride anxiety on trips to the vet I crate amd put a towel covering 3 sides to make a comfy cave amd then use it to put on the exam table .
and another towel to partially cover crate on the ride home-
I put the towel that was on the exam table In plastic bag and then a hot wash with a squirt of Chlorhexidine solution
Some members wipe off the exam table with wipes they being with

Just wanted to share )
 
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Furrlessfurrvr

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It’s crazy what people will do. I even read a couple of articles about these people who were scammed by someone who shaved/buzz cut a kitten and sold it for a Sphynx. I’ve even read people go as far as using Nair! It certainly concerned me after reading that about getting Mishka. But I checked her out. Her body is fine. And she def. has all of the chacteristics of the breed. Aside from that when I met the lady who was regiment her she seemed honest and nice.
 

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@Stevieraek the right one will find you
Glad you went with your gut and looked for red flags

You can refresh up date looking for thread so member can chime in
 

LunaRosa

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Honestly, I'd say just trust you gut. The person I bought from took visa, which was comforting as I had called Visa and they had said if the breeder was unable to provide proof that she was ever sent, then I could dispute the transactions and get refunded via a claim through the credit card. I think I did pay more than what others had advertised but for sure a big red flag would be an overly cheap price. Beyond that, and most importantly, the breeder always answered my calls and emails and never hesitated to answer any questions. You could tell she had a passion for the breed and genuinely wanted pass along the knowledge she had to set your adoption up for success. She spent at least a couple hours on the phone with me during the almost 4 month wait for baby to be born and shipped to me. She also had a website, facebook, YouTube, all with active people who were buying and had bought (interactions, comments, questions, etc) so I felt comfortable the whole time. I'm sure there are a ton of red flags, none that I encountered.. so, speaking from my own experience, all I can say is do your research (and a little social media stalking lol) and trust your gut :)
 
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alandsim

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I've been feeling kind of conflicted and hoping my breeder's not secretly a member, but want to share to get a lil weigh in:

If you'll remember, I got Sim end of March 2019. I was told:
  • She was 3
  • She was "up on all her shots"
  • She's purebred Donskoy and breeder would give me all her paperwork. She did give me a record showing she's purebred
When I actually got her I got purebred records as I mentioned, but no vet paperwork. The records I was given were from the Ukraine. They included a passport-like packet that showed she did get vaccines when she was a kitten. They also had her birth date and a microchip number. The breeder never mentioned her being chipped, but I just thought, "sweet! saves me the trouble of getting it done!"

I'll list the fishy things in the order I found out about them.

  • When I actually got in contact with her vet within the first week of having Sim, it turned out in the whole time Breeder owned Sim, she did not give her any vaccines at her US vet. Breeder was apologetic told me she must have straight up forgotten to do her 3 year rabies because she did the rest of her cats at the same time, and Sim's wasn't due at the time the other cats got taken care of, but in Breeder's mind she had forgotten Sim was the exception. That doesn't make sense since none of Sim's kitten vaccinations were 3-year according to the paperwork. Whatever, water under the bridge, maybe she's not the most organized person.
  • I looked up the intl microchip number on the paperwork soon after getting her and saw it didn't appear to be registered to anyone, so I made a mental note to register Sim to my own name later on.
  • Now, as I have gotten Jo microchipped, I planned to register both chips (you get a deal for doing two pets at the same time). JUST to make sure, I drove to the clinic with Sim this morning to have them read her chip and make sure it was in fact in her. Sure enough, she has a chip, but the number of her chip is 3 digits off from the one that is recorded in the records. (I got the actual chip # from the one in her body registered to my name today)
  • Also, I feel super dumb for not noticing until now, but when I was looking at the passport thingy with the clinic staff who read her microchip to compare the numbers, they pointed out that according to the listed birth date, 6/19/17, she's not 3. She's about to turn 2. I never did the math and noticed and neither did my main vet.
What should I be thinking right now? I have paperwork for a cat with a different microchip number than Sim has, and the breeder told me a different age in years. Red flag?

I mean, I'm happy with Sim and she's healthy from what all the vets have seen since I've had her, but I'm really wondering what the heck her breeder was doing. Was I intentionally lied to?Did I unknowingly facilitate something shady? What do you think?

Edited to add: Sorry if this isn't the appropriate thread, but my logic was that if went back in time and I was looking to adopt, I would want to know this stuff ahead of time and know if these are major red flags, so it may be useful for those who are looking.
 

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@alandsim main thing is you have her and she is registered to you now..
Time flies amd life gets crazy.. I wouldn’t worry too much ..
I have erred In the past thinking mine were a different age wrote numbers wrong etc when my life was crazy busy , death in family etc
Clerical errors can happen.

Also to add , some do not believe in over vaccinating ...
I had a Bengal years ago bcz of health reasons my vet advised me no more vaccines for him . He nearly died from an allergic reaction .

I don’t think and would hope nothing was intentional ...
I wouldn’t read too much into it... just move forward blessed with this cutie !

Kudos to you for registering them.
Make sure to double check with the company thst they have correct contact info even if the vet calls in the registration ... typos can happen

You do bring up good points to share with others about checking info .
 
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alandsim

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@Yoda mom

Yes, I'm just going to be thankful that because of the breeder I have Sim. She has always been very nice and helpful and it's clear that Sim was taken care of by her.

The biggest adjustment will be knowing that Sim is the younger of the two now, when she identifies as Jo's big sister :p
 

JelikoCats

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Re: How to Detect fraud adoption ads

The biggest red flag is when they have a post saying that they are in LA, or anywhere, and when you message them about picking up the kitten or seeing the kitten and they say they are actually somewhere else. This is a HUGE red flag. If they arent where they say they are, just stop replying. Also if they want you to send the money so that they can fly them out even though you could pick them up, thats also a big no no. As for price, it really depends on the area that you live. Luna said anything less than 1600 is sketchy but here in the USA thats really high for a pet sphynx unless its an Elf or a show cat. I usually dont trust anything below 800, usually 1000 t0 1200 is a good price in the USA unless its an older cat. Also do your research with the breeder. See if anyone has said anything about them. My best advice, is to pick a breeder that you can actually visit just so you know that there really is a kitten there that you could take home and not a fake picture that someone has stolen form someone else.
Yep happened to me like 6 times. Replied to listings to what i thought were breeders and they suddenly had to move and would ship to me and stuff. It's total bull shi***
 
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Monica

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@JelikoCats From my experience, the majority of sphynx breeders are opting for Facebook & IG platforms these days. They also hardly ever post ads on any of those “pet finder” websites, bc they don’t need to, tbh.
I hope you found your real sphynx baby eventually!
 
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