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Miss anxious Joey - peeing, pacing, yowling

tontiangel

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Going to get first available appt with her primary vet. Just wanted to post here to collect info and hear any suggestions.

Miss Joey is a rescue - you can see my post history. She has always had anxiety - she has needed to regulate with pets, cuddles, food, play. She has her chill moments too. But definitely compared to Toadie, she is more “high strung.” For a bit it seemed like kitten energy.

Then I recall the first instance of her nervous peeing at the vets office about a year ago, and one night “yowling” - loud meows that made me anxious - after a vet visit.

At one point earlier this year she discovered the mirror - and her go to became running to the mirror and meowing loudly when she wasn’t getting attention or if I stopped playing with her.

The moment I would call her name, she would come prancing tail up and shaking - purring - and happy to be connected again.

She has certain times during the day - morning afternoon and evening where she will pace around the apartment. Again, if I am engaged in play with her - she breaks from that and is back in the action and seems soothed.

She will also calm down when her brother Toadie wakes up from his naps - they engage in play and grooming and have always gotten along.

So three months ago she peed in the bathtub. It was a stressed night I’m sure - I was up late prepping for my surgery and it was past her bedtime. Informed the internal med doc and she said it sounded behavioral, not health. About a month or so later she peed in there again - I put a little bit of water in there and close the curtain and she still attempted!

Again doc said behavioral.

I thought that’s one of her quirks like the rest and carried on.

Last night I was moving their play tunnel and saw pee on ground. I had a flashback to earlier in day - I was working and she was pacing meowing wanting engagement: I was not giving her at that moment. I recall a scratching at tunnel and thought she was self soothing by playing. Ah no that was the anxiety pee moment! And realized she has made that noise before at least once. So that was her new pee spot.

Realized too she just seemed extra in terms of the pee, loud yowl like meows and pacing - once again emailed the internal med doc. This time the doc said sounded behavioral / FIC and to go to primary.

So here I am today. I cleaned up the pee - need to buy special pee cleaner today. I trashed the tunnel, put a litter box there and some cat nip in area.

I put a cat shirt on her this morning and she immediately stopped anxious behavior and is sleeping.

anyway - as of May her labs all normal and no hcm. Urinalysis and all that. But of course here we are post pee and I think all her behaviors coming together clicking and I’m very glad we are going to vet.

If you all have advice etc I’m glad to hear it. I love her and I want her to feel calm. And of course - me too! Her anxiety has always made me anxious.
 

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@tontiangel , glad you are going to first avail appt with her primary vet. can you bring a fresh urine sample? I put a piece of tinfoil in the corner of the litter box and or a little soup laddle to catch a urine sample to bring to vet. ask to rule out any kidney? bladder stones? just brainstorming.

I know Miss Joey and Toadie have the bestest mum.

sharing breeder recommended anti icky poo I got when I brought home adoptees just to have on hand. gallon about $28 a gallon on chewy, scented and unscented. I use it to wash cat and dog beds.


sharing I had a bengal adoptee decades ago with anxiety. everything healthwise cleared. he was put on a low dose of Buspirone.

following closely for updates, hugs n head smooches
 

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Oh thank you! I wondered how to do that at home - don’t they do some invasive version of urine sample at vets? Some poking prodding version.

That is a good product rec thank you.

How did that low dose affect your bengal? I am hoping if she needs meds that they will help.
 

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I would definitely get a fresh urine test…the yowling could be a sign of pain as if there are crystals it can be painful to them which is what I would rule out.


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I would definitely get a fresh urine test…the yowling could be a sign of pain as if there are crystals it can be painful to them which is what I would rule out.


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That sounds good! If I can’t capture that at home - they do that there right? She had a couple of urine tests done a year ago and in May at the vets.
 

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@tontiangel , the procedure in office is a cystocentesis. some of my pups and kitties have had it done in office depending if it is routine check or a vet visit for specific for a diagnosis.
other times for routine blood work , urine, stool, check included my vet gave me an Idexx urine collection kit no charge to take home for Macie Mae..

it contained a package with zorb litter and a pipette and a a capped container tube to put urine in. I got a dish pan tray at the dollar store and put it inside the covered litter box. I was able to drop it off to the vet within 20 minutes. I have put in a sealed bag in spare refrigerator if I cant make it to the office right away.

for blood work, no matter what age, I always ask for a "senior panel" cbc. it included blood work, T4 thyroid check, stool check for parasites, urine and heartwork test, lyme disease etc. samples sent out to Idexx lab too. here in FL it's $263 for the senior panel including office visit. xrays depends on how many views were 100-150 and a little more if I wanted sent out to radiologist to read.

following closely for updates, hugs n positive vibes

sharing aside from the pee,
pacing yowling can be a sign of hyperthyroidism and or high blood pressure.. ask me how I know ... Macie Mae was pacing , yowling (no pee accidents) blood work senior panel included the T4 thyroid check. her thyroid came back normal.

vet suggested it could be high blood pressure , hypertension, with the pacing and yowling.
sure enough, they got out the little kitty blood pressure cuff. she was over 200 high blood pressure. vet took the blood pressure several times and took down the readings. ($40 bucks for bp check here)
she was started on high blood pressure med amlodipine , rechecked in 2 weeks and meds adjusted. doing great, no more yowling and pacing. just brain storming to share
 
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Oh thank you so so much

Great details to tell the vet

Thursday 11:30 am appt!!!

I put on her green sweater that she hasn’t worn since she came home from foster fam with it. She immediately calmed down and has been calm and resting today. Bought feliway diffuser too.

Trying to see what helps in meantime.

Will update here with all the results
 

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@tontiangel , awh. I can just see her in her sweater, glad it is calming for her. recommend supervised only on.. my girl nearly fell from the top of a high area when her little thumb nail got stuck on a sweater, glad I was there to catch her.
let us know how the diffusers work for sweet Joey. you are an amazing mum
all paws crossed for Thursday's vet visit. following for updates. love hugs n head smooches to your babies.
 

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Wow I was literally just supervising her as she was becoming more and more vertical and thinking of ways she may fall!

Thanks and will update!!!
 

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Hopefully the vet can figure out what is going on. Or at least rule out any medical issue. When we needed a urine sample for Jade the vet was able to get it...yikes my English is not good enough to explain the way the vet did this but I hope you know what I mean.
Sending positive vibes.
 

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Hello! Doc didn’t say the meds but mentioned she would start low dose.

I am waiting to hear back from the vets - hoping today like they mentioned.

Miss Joey is doing well - the cat sweater helps and I hope the feliway helps.

She will still do her loud meows and pacing sometimes - that’s if the sweater is off, and she is needing tension regulation.

I’ve noticed by checking cat cams she only has this behavior when I’m around. When I’m gone she just snoozes and plays with Toadie.

Toadie is good!!!

They are buds.
 

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“Here are Joey's urinalysis results. They did not run a culture since there were no concerning findings in her urine that warranted further investigation. The slight ketones are not concerning unless there is glucose in the urine, and she has no glucose in her urine. Sometimes a very high-protein low-carbohydrate diet can cause slight ketones in the urine, and also heavy exercise. With the urine dipstick there can also be false positives including in urine with a lot of pigment (concentrated). Her urine is a normal concentration and has no blood or bacteria or crystals or any other abnormal findings.
This means we can consider a trial of fluoxetine for anxiety-related urine marking. I would start with 2.5mg per day for several weeks and then if there is no change it could be increased to 5mg per day. I don't usually go above 5mg per day in cats.
Let me know if you would like to start that medication and also if tablets or liquid would be easier. The liquid would need to be compounded at the pharmacy.”
 

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Sounds like your vet has a plan in place. We had a girl we put on Fluoxetine because she would sometimes pee outside of the litter box and it worked wonders for her. We worried would she be lethargic (not herself) but it just took the edge off for her and we were so happy she was happier/less stressed.
 

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Hi!!! We are on day three of the meds - I am wondering when we would notice a difference? She seems slightly more mellow. But will sometimes do her anxious meow pace.

The peeing was so infrequent I do not know yet if meds will make a difference.

Thanks for asking !!
 
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