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Skin issues, pyoderma?

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  1. emerik

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    Hello first poster here

    i have my little baby Botsman since 5 months, we got him 2 months old and he already had that inflammation on his face, the previous owner said he got scratched by his mom or something and she really didnt seem concerned. fast forward to now, our baby still deal with that, checking up with a vet all the time, hes really nice and follow up with me, he did a skin collection with glass to see if theres any bacteria or stuff he thought it would be, but nothing came up. Botsman was also on antibiotic and topical cream, 2 times with 2 different sorts, and it did nothing really.

    the thing is, he live with it, he doesn't seem in pain, but from time to time, hes gonna scratch the spot and make himself bleed heavily. this seem to be random, he could go 2 weeks without scratching and be normal and then scratch himself 2 times in one day. Lately ive been putting the cone of shame on him all the time so he doesn't scratch, its a really small one and he got used to it, sleep well and play well.

    last week the vet told me were gonna to check if this is a food allergy, to chicken ( we were already using grain free dry food), so he put him on duck and green peas vet hills. lets hope its that, but im thinking that is pyoderma, it really look similar, this thing can apparently result from food allergy?

    im a little bit skeptical cause botsman seem to like all food, he come to us everytime we eat fruit, veggies etc, and his poops are normal, even on the chicken dry food. never had any problem with vomiting or stuff like that

    he never had any other spot, the rest of his skin is perfect.

    anyone have an opinion on the matter?

    heres the album;
    botsman skin issue
     
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      Poor kitty. Sorry, I don't have any answers for you. I'm just bumping your post.

      Do you have any photos of how it looked when he first came home? Has it always been that big, or has it grown in size?

      Hopefully, another more experienced Lairian will have some advice/answers for you!
       
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      i think it was always this big, it didn't change in size, never got worse or better,
      at least he doesn't seem to be in pain, he act like a normal kitty.
       
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        @emerik , Welcoming you and your handsome Botsman to the lair family

        A lair full of healing vibes sent!
        So sorry you are dealing with this -
        I am glad you reached I'm for us to chime in with our experiences you can share with your vet .

        Which antibiotics amd ointments were prescribed ?
        I ask because somee antibiotics do not work as well with sphynx

        My go to antibiotic I have had best results with my sphynx is "doxycline "
        Many of us also keep on hand Vetericyn spray or vetericyn hydrogel
        - it is non toxic
        I use Vetericyn on my kitties nicks or skin scrapes as well as the dogs hot spot he gets on his head or face from time to time - it does look similar to Botsman skin -
        Does his skin get oozy ?

        You can ask your vet if it would be okay to use Vetericyn wetted on a flat cosmetic 100% cotton pad amd dabbed on ?
        Or perhaps if a few drops of povidone mixed in water until clear amd gently dabbed on the area a few times a day would help ? We can't diagnosis but can share our experiences you can discuss with your vet if it would be indicated for Botsman to give some relief



        What was the vets diagnosis?
        My vet will call and consult with colleagues when dealing with certain perplexing issues .
        Perhaps a second opinion?

        Fwiw I did switch my dogs food and the chronic hot spot went away .
        My vet did not allergy test suggesting we could get false positives
        So I went the elimination diet trial
        It can take several weeks to see if a change of food is working

        Several members have switched to natural balance pea and dick with good success

        I will be following closely for updated ok sweet Botsman
        What a good boy Wearing his come of shame

        ((Hugs))) skin issues can be so frustrating we know all to well

        Sphynx Skin Conditions

        Wound & Skin Care - Vetericyn Animal Wellness

        Be sure to scroll to bottom of pages for "similar threads"
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          @Yoda mom
          yeah i did look at mostly all the thread before posting but havent seen anything similar,

          i dont remember the anti-biotic i've used but right now the cream left is
          VIADERM-KC. which doesnt seem to be doing anything (used it for 2-3 weeks)
          to me it really look like PYODERMA which can be from food allergy and others reasons,
          but this and hot spot look really similar?? im gonna give a go to the product you recommended

          the skin is not oozy at all , never been, its just there.

          the vet did consult with a dermatologist but nothing they thought it was came back positive.
          Even the skin collecting didn't do anything. mo fungus or anything

          i was thinking going to another clinic to have a second opinion.. my vet has 2 sphynx cats though..
           
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            I will look tomorrow at some of the prescriptions I have had for them amd you can ask your vet
            If it would help
            I believe it was entederm

            I would ask about doxcycline too

            A second opinion may be a good idea for fresh eyes on this frustrating skin issue
            Is there a training vet university in your area - they are often helpful too
             
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            @emerik , I have used this woth good results
            You can ask your vet

            EnteDerm Ointment for Dogs and Cats | Cheap EnteDerm Ear Care | Allivet Pet Pharmacy
            (I know this is US but wanted to share the product info )

            I adopted a kitty that came with a tube of Entederm Ointment

            Vetericyn also has A vetericyn VF (vet formula) that was a little harder to find online but it is supposedly a bit stronger than The regular vetericyn plus .
            I have and both work good

            How long has Botsman been on the new food duck and Pea?

            Will check in more tomorrow
             
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            @Yoda mom the new food has been introduced last friday, too soon to tell yet

            yeah ill try vetericyn and this other ointment, all those kind of ointments are the same but sometime a cat will not react to certain one right?

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              It could be food related since it's on his face. Here is the problem I see though. You switched him from a chicken diet to duck, but what if what he's allergic to isn't the meat but some additive? The additive is going to be in both. This is why for suspected allergies it's usually recommended to feed raw or homemade food, so you can control what goes in it.
               
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              @Condo commando oh well i just followed what my vet told me, we were using royal canin chicken and he asked me to switch to vet hills d/d sensitive duck and green peas
               
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              @emerik , awhhh Botsman is such a good boy with his cone

              All paws crossed the duck food formula food helps clear things up


              I have had great success in the past woth duck formulas
              Yes too early to tell , I was told at least 12 weeks for food trials

              Definitely agree different meds and ointments can work differently on each kitty
              What is the name of the ointment ? Are they from your sphynx owning vet ( always a plus to have a vet familar with the breed )
              Can your vdt send pics to a vet colleague for their opinion ?

              Positve healing vibes ! Will be following closely for updates
               
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                the ointment is VIADERM-KC , emailed my vet and he seem to say since botsman didnt react to ointment and antibiotic that its not bacteria.... im gonna try to tell him to maybe try more different meds, but he said he wanna see with the food first for at least 4 weeks.

                and yes the sphynx owning one

                also he said not to try Vetericyn right now and stick with food allergy, i think imma still go ahead and buy it
                 
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                  @emerik , sounds like a plan - these skin things can be so stubborn amd seem like forever at times to get resolution -
                  Been there done that with my dog - know we are sending a lair full of Positve vibes !
                  So cool you have a vet with 2 sphynx amd have a treatment plan

                  Head smooches

                  Look forward to Positve updates!

                  Ps- just a thought , does Botsman sneak or get any people food or packaged kitty treats?

                  Fwiw, I cut out all packaged kitty treats - I know baaaad momma -
                  I actually feed hills science diet urinrary hariball formula as treats .
                  ( started feeding this food when when my adoptee went to the vet for a urinary infection amd refused to eat the vet sold food ) now it's given as treats .


                  Psehaps use the same new duck formula food as treats too ?


                  Thanks for sharing his picture - Botsman is just so handsome
                   
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                  @Yoda mom yeah thats what i did, bought the same thing as treat
                  he does sneak and try to get food from us everytime we eat, i normally just give him sometime little bit of cucumber, or veggies

                  im thinking that since he has that before from previous owner and that she was using

                  same old food as me,
                  same litter as me
                  Same shampoo as me

                  it could be allergy related to one of those product.
                   
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                    @emerik ,
                    I really like Hylyt shampoo - soap free hypoallergenic easy rinse
                    It's sold at my vets office and online
                    Many of us spa day with Hylyt

                    Is there anything in your home that he consistently rubs his face against ?
                    Just trying to think outside the box of usually culprits to skin issues
                    ((Hugs)))
                     
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                    @Yoda mom good good, tbh hes always pretty good, and no he doesnt rub his face against anything. he just had a his cone all day again , o just made it the smallest possible so its not annoying for him and that he still cannot scratch.

                    emailed my vet today a bit and ask questions around and he said that since botsman responded a little bit to dexamethasone ( made the spot a tiny less bigi think) and that he saw a lot of eosinophils with rubbing, hes almost 100% its a hyper sensibility reaction to an allergen
                     
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                      @emerik , checking in on Botsman and sending continued healing vibes