Sphynx Color Q&A

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  1. Retro Kitty

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    I am by no means an expert on anything but I do find genetics very interesting and have done a ton of research on sphynx colors and patterns. I thought it might be helpful to have a thread where people can ask their color questions and we can try to figure out the answers as a group. Hopefully I’ve put it in the right section. I’ll start us off by posting some of the basic questions that come up a lot and we can add to it.

    What is the difference between Point and Mink?

    Both are called “thermal” because they are born pale and their color develops on the cooler parts of their bodies as they grow.

    Pointed cats have blue eyes. They have a tendency to have more contrast between body and extremity colors than Mink cats. The Point gene in Sphynx is the same as in Siamese.

    This is a Seal Point with White
    Seal Point1.jpg
    Same Seal Point as a kitten -
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    Mink cats have aqua eyes. They have a tendency to have less contrast aka more similar body and extremity colors than Pointed cats. The Mink genes in Sphynx are the same as in Tonkinese (which is one Burmese [amber eye] gene and one Siamese [blue eye] gene present at the same time)

    This is a Seal (aka Natural) Mink with White
    Seal Mink 1.jpg Seal Mink2.jpg


    Is my cat blue?

    Blue cats are basically black cats with an extra gene that makes them dilute. Their nose leather and paw pads will be steely blue, not black. Telling them apart can take some practice since most black sphynx don’t really look dark black, they look more gray. Blue cats usually have mint green eyes unless they are Blue Point or Blue Mink.

    I don’t have a solid so here is a Blue Cream (which is the dilute version of a black and orange Tortie) she is a darker example of a Blue Cream.
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      This is interesting. I had been told by my breeder that Alfie is blue, but turns out he is black! (black nose and paw pads) Good to learn :)
       
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        Very good thread. Thanks.
         
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          Great thread! Would you say Lola is a mink tortie ? ImageUploadedByTapatalk1389764684.335004.jpg Lola is the pale colour - she has orange, grey white all swirled up! ImageUploadedByTapatalk1389764741.517553.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1389764781.300206.jpg she has days of aqua eyes, days of pale blue and days of pale green!
           
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            Lola is such an Enigma! Every time I see a different picture I change my mind. If you knew the colors of her parents and grandparents I could give a more educated guess. Sometimes she looks Blue Cream to me, sometimes she looks like a Mink Tortie. In person does the peachy patch on her face look more orange or more cream?
             
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              I saw a picture in one of your albums that shows his face and eyes really well. Would you mind posting it so people can see the difference? He’s an awesome example of a solid black, so handsome. You can definitely see how his body could look blue but his face is dark black. They usually have beautiful yellow eyes just like Alfie does.
               
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                There is this one where you can see the black fur on the nose and the black/brown paw pads.

                From other black sphynx I have seen, it seems like the 'darkness' of the black/grey color can vary. Maybe based on how hairy your sphynx is :)

                I think maybe a good example of a blue sphynx from your description is @Kym 's Sookie?

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                  I love that pic of Alfie! And yes, Sookie is a good Blue example. She’s a little bit lighter so it’s really easy to tell the difference between her and a Black. Is she Blue Cream, @Kym? I think I spy a faint tortie pattern and a teeny bit of cream on her nose. It’s very subtle though.
                   
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                    She has orange tipped ears and a small orange (kinda like nicotine stain! Lol) above her nose. The rest of her is cream background :)
                     
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                      I heard back from the breeder, apparently she is a seal tortie point :) x
                       
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                        I made the thread a sticky for you. Hope we get some good answers on colors! I believe Leonidas is a Tuxedo and Athena is a Calico.

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                          I thought Leo was a tabby with white? I can see stripes on his face and tail.
                           
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                            Torties....

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                              Great thread and very helpful.
                               
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                                My Leo is a Blue, Molly is a Black. Easy to see when they are side by side! image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
                                 
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                                    Very interesting...giz is solid black for sure
                                     
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                                    I can never figure out what Simba is. Nala is obvious, she's a pale white/pink. Can anyone guess Simba?
                                     
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                                    Blue and white???? Idk lol...he is beautiful though :)
                                     
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                                    I'd say blue and white like my Luna and khaleesi :) ImageUploadedByTapatalk1389810645.283950.jpg
                                     
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                                      This thread has been very educational. Thanks to RetroKitty for all the assistance in figuring out Puddin' the Mystery cat :) I am leaning heavily towards him being either a chocolate pointed tabby and white, or a platinum tabby and white. I know what his parents are. Also, I love looking at all the wonderful kitties - they are all so lovely!
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                                        I have no idea what Patrick Stewart is I always say he an orange tabby?!? I mean the only stripe I see are on his tail he has orange spots on his face but solid orange ears but whitish cream feet ImageUploadedByTapatalk1390250755.584712.jpg
                                         
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                                          He looks like he may be orange and white
                                           
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                                            Creamsicle? :)
                                             
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