I keep seeing you guys talk about HCM and I guess I have never heard of it? What is HCM and is it only a Sphynx thing? Sorry if im ignorant about this
Mews2muchV.I.P Lairian V.I.P LairianJoined:Jun 14, 2009Messages:4,564Likes Received:2,010Location: CaliforniaSphynx Bucks: $142.00Ratings:+2,011 Here is some info n HCM. Sphynx Breeders & Fanciers Alliance - Preserve, Protect & Promote the Sphynx Breed Last edited: Apr 30, 2010 Mews2much, Apr 30, 2010 #2 Mews2muchV.I.P Lairian V.I.P LairianJoined:Jun 14, 2009Messages:4,564Likes Received:2,010Location: CaliforniaSphynx Bucks: $142.00Ratings:+2,011 Here is some info on HCM. Sphynx Breeders & Fanciers Alliance - Preserve, Protect & Promote the Sphynx Breed Sphynx Breeders/Enthusiast Newsletter - ARCHIVES - Vol. 1 Issue 1 Breeder / Health - Judy Webb Gunby: Feline Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy in the Sphynx Catand Other Problems Concerning Diagnoses Mews2much, Apr 30, 2010 #3 Inferno12BannedJoined:Apr 27, 2010Messages:1,068Likes Received:662Location: Colorado SpringsSphynx Bucks: $1.00Ratings:+662 Thank you for this information. Has anyone in here dealt with this personally? Inferno12, Apr 30, 2010 #4 Mews2muchV.I.P Lairian V.I.P LairianJoined:Jun 14, 2009Messages:4,564Likes Received:2,010Location: CaliforniaSphynx Bucks: $142.00Ratings:+2,011 My friends have. Some have cats with HCM right now and my mentor has lost 5 cats to HCM. Mews2much, Apr 30, 2010 #5 Inferno12BannedJoined:Apr 27, 2010Messages:1,068Likes Received:662Location: Colorado SpringsSphynx Bucks: $1.00Ratings:+662 Is it a risk you take as a breeder or is this something that is preventable? Thanks for you information by the way Inferno12, Apr 30, 2010 #6 Mews2muchV.I.P Lairian V.I.P LairianJoined:Jun 14, 2009Messages:4,564Likes Received:2,010Location: CaliforniaSphynx Bucks: $142.00Ratings:+2,011 The breeders try to keep it out of the lines but HCM pos cats can still happen. They do HCM tests before they breed. If a cat tests pos then it is altered and removed from the breeding program. There are bad breeders that will breed anyway. Mews2much, Apr 30, 2010 #7 Like x 2 EmbraceMonChatLairianJoined:Sep 24, 2009Messages:264Likes Received:89Sphynx Bucks: $3.00Ratings:+89 It's a risk you take as a breeder and an owner. There is no genetic test for Sphynx (yet) so breeders can't send out a quick blood sample and know if they are HCM free or not prior to a mating. They can do echocardiograms on their breeders and monitor any changes, remove HCM + cats from their program and share the information so that other breedersk can avoid cultivating HCM+ branches in their own pedigrees. The problem is that sometimes a cat can scan clear for the first few years of it's life, the same time period it would be breeding...and then pop positive after it's been retired from breeding. Well, too late for all the other breeders and pets that were placed from those litters. That's why it's so important, if you are trying to stack the deck in your favor, to deal with a breeder that KNOWS pedigrees and HCM inside and out. Even then, you can't completely guarantee anything. EmbraceMonChat, Apr 30, 2010 #8 Like x 2 tessblackBannedJoined:Sep 18, 2009Messages:1,401Likes Received:1,130Sphynx Bucks: $3.00Ratings:+1,130 I just got both my guys tested and they were negative. I knew nothing about it until I got on here. I was so scared when I took them in. I like your facebook page!! He is so cute! tessblack, Apr 30, 2010 #9 Inferno12BannedJoined:Apr 27, 2010Messages:1,068Likes Received:662Location: Colorado SpringsSphynx Bucks: $1.00Ratings:+662 AWE......thanks, I love his facebook page too! I have never heard about HCM either until I have gotten on here. I plan on taking him in and having him tested now. It makes me nervous too Inferno12, Apr 30, 2010 #10 Mews2muchV.I.P Lairian V.I.P LairianJoined:Jun 14, 2009Messages:4,564Likes Received:2,010Location: CaliforniaSphynx Bucks: $142.00Ratings:+2,011 How old is he? I would not scan until the cat is 1 -1.5 months years old. Mews2much, Apr 30, 2010 #11 Inferno12BannedJoined:Apr 27, 2010Messages:1,068Likes Received:662Location: Colorado SpringsSphynx Bucks: $1.00Ratings:+662 He is just about 1.5 years old Inferno12, Apr 30, 2010 #12 Mews2muchV.I.P Lairian V.I.P LairianJoined:Jun 14, 2009Messages:4,564Likes Received:2,010Location: CaliforniaSphynx Bucks: $142.00Ratings:+2,011 I would have him scanned now. Mews2much, Apr 30, 2010 #13 adminAdministrator Staff MemberJoined:Jan 13, 2009Messages:21,991Likes Received:14,049Location: USASphynx Bucks: $289,045.84Ratings:+18,107 Hi Inferno12 Embracemonchat said it very well. The only thing missing is that no it's not a "sphynx thing". Any animal including humans can get this heart disease. admin, Apr 30, 2010 #14 ShauntayBannedJoined:Mar 2, 2010Messages:292Likes Received:364Location: Montreal CanadaSphynx Bucks: $9.00Ratings:+364 Both of my altered boys have HCM, and my smaller one has a murmur graded 5 out of 6. It's a horrible disease, and I am grateful for every day I have with them. When I got them 6 years ago, I did not do adequate research, and fell in love with their pictures and trusted the "breeder's" word that her breeding cats had been scanned negative. I later found out that both parents were positives, and being her only sphynx produced up to 4 litters a year. I love my boys more then anything in the world, and it breaks my heart we probably wont have the time we deserve with each other. A note to everyone; Support HCM research in finding a genetic marker for Sphynx. With loving conscientious breeders, we can all keep up hope! Shauntay, Apr 30, 2010 #15 Inferno12BannedJoined:Apr 27, 2010Messages:1,068Likes Received:662Location: Colorado SpringsSphynx Bucks: $1.00Ratings:+662 WOW...how sad. I cant imagine him going at a young age. I will make sure that I get him scanned and I hope that he is ok. This is so sad to me and I am sorry that both our boys have this. Inferno12, Apr 30, 2010 #16 ilovemysphynxAdministrator Staff MemberJoined:Feb 2, 2009Messages:4,988Likes Received:3,073Location: New JerseySphynx Bucks: $6,141.16Ratings:+3,088 Hi Inferno12 and welcome! Also keep in mind that if you have your cat scanned and the result is negative he can be positive a week, month or year later so it is no guarantee. Last edited by a moderator: May 1, 2010 ilovemysphynx, Apr 30, 2010 #17 firehillqueenBannedJoined:Mar 19, 2010Messages:450Likes Received:255Sphynx Bucks: $5.00Ratings:+255 I lost my much beloved Singe to HCM. I had never owned a Sphynx before and had no idea that this would steal my darling at 2 years old. firehillqueen, May 1, 2010 #18 ckutkuhn7BannedJoined:Jan 16, 2010Messages:5,191Likes Received:2,873Sphynx Bucks: $43.00Ratings:+2,877 Awww he looks so much like my Snuffie! So cute!! I'm sorry for your lose. ckutkuhn7, May 1, 2010 #19 holly_savageBannedJoined:Mar 6, 2010Messages:1,229Likes Received:649Location: Hanover, OntarioSphynx Bucks: $5.00Ratings:+649 Wish I could offer anything new, but it has all been covered by our resident HCM "experts" (and I am using the " " in a nice way, not sarcastic). I am also a new sphynx owner, so I will have to go through the testing part in the next year! holly_savage, May 1, 2010 #20 Inferno12BannedJoined:Apr 27, 2010Messages:1,068Likes Received:662Location: Colorado SpringsSphynx Bucks: $1.00Ratings:+662 Thank you for the information. This is exactly what I was looking for. I will be having my little man tested and this is something that will monitor for the rest of his life and when I am looking for my next Shynx! ckutkuhn7, I am so sorry for your loss Inferno12, May 1, 2010 #21 ckutkuhn7BannedJoined:Jan 16, 2010Messages:5,191Likes Received:2,873Sphynx Bucks: $43.00Ratings:+2,877 It was firehillqueen who lost her Singe to HCM, our kitties do look a like tho. Thanks but I will forward your condolences to Firehillqueen. ckutkuhn7, May 1, 2010 #22 Like x 2 (You must log in or sign up to reply here.)Show Ignored Content Login with InstagramLog in with FacebookYour name or email address: Do you already have an account? No, create an account now. Yes, my password is: Forgot your password? Stay logged in Sphynxlair Forums > Sphynx Cat Chat > Sphynx Cat Questions? > XenForo Add-ons by Brivium ™ © 2012-2018 Brivium LLC.
Here is some info n HCM. Sphynx Breeders & Fanciers Alliance - Preserve, Protect & Promote the Sphynx Breed
Here is some info on HCM. Sphynx Breeders & Fanciers Alliance - Preserve, Protect & Promote the Sphynx Breed Sphynx Breeders/Enthusiast Newsletter - ARCHIVES - Vol. 1 Issue 1 Breeder / Health - Judy Webb Gunby: Feline Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy in the Sphynx Catand Other Problems Concerning Diagnoses
Is it a risk you take as a breeder or is this something that is preventable? Thanks for you information by the way
The breeders try to keep it out of the lines but HCM pos cats can still happen. They do HCM tests before they breed. If a cat tests pos then it is altered and removed from the breeding program. There are bad breeders that will breed anyway.
It's a risk you take as a breeder and an owner. There is no genetic test for Sphynx (yet) so breeders can't send out a quick blood sample and know if they are HCM free or not prior to a mating. They can do echocardiograms on their breeders and monitor any changes, remove HCM + cats from their program and share the information so that other breedersk can avoid cultivating HCM+ branches in their own pedigrees. The problem is that sometimes a cat can scan clear for the first few years of it's life, the same time period it would be breeding...and then pop positive after it's been retired from breeding. Well, too late for all the other breeders and pets that were placed from those litters. That's why it's so important, if you are trying to stack the deck in your favor, to deal with a breeder that KNOWS pedigrees and HCM inside and out. Even then, you can't completely guarantee anything.
I just got both my guys tested and they were negative. I knew nothing about it until I got on here. I was so scared when I took them in. I like your facebook page!! He is so cute!
AWE......thanks, I love his facebook page too! I have never heard about HCM either until I have gotten on here. I plan on taking him in and having him tested now. It makes me nervous too
Hi Inferno12 Embracemonchat said it very well. The only thing missing is that no it's not a "sphynx thing". Any animal including humans can get this heart disease.
Both of my altered boys have HCM, and my smaller one has a murmur graded 5 out of 6. It's a horrible disease, and I am grateful for every day I have with them. When I got them 6 years ago, I did not do adequate research, and fell in love with their pictures and trusted the "breeder's" word that her breeding cats had been scanned negative. I later found out that both parents were positives, and being her only sphynx produced up to 4 litters a year. I love my boys more then anything in the world, and it breaks my heart we probably wont have the time we deserve with each other. A note to everyone; Support HCM research in finding a genetic marker for Sphynx. With loving conscientious breeders, we can all keep up hope!
WOW...how sad. I cant imagine him going at a young age. I will make sure that I get him scanned and I hope that he is ok. This is so sad to me and I am sorry that both our boys have this.
Hi Inferno12 and welcome! Also keep in mind that if you have your cat scanned and the result is negative he can be positive a week, month or year later so it is no guarantee.
I lost my much beloved Singe to HCM. I had never owned a Sphynx before and had no idea that this would steal my darling at 2 years old.
Wish I could offer anything new, but it has all been covered by our resident HCM "experts" (and I am using the " " in a nice way, not sarcastic). I am also a new sphynx owner, so I will have to go through the testing part in the next year!
Thank you for the information. This is exactly what I was looking for. I will be having my little man tested and this is something that will monitor for the rest of his life and when I am looking for my next Shynx! ckutkuhn7, I am so sorry for your loss
It was firehillqueen who lost her Singe to HCM, our kitties do look a like tho. Thanks but I will forward your condolences to Firehillqueen.
