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Help needed... IBD, diarrhea and weight loss

WilburTheSphynx

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Hello everybody, I have recently discovered this forum in attempts to find help for my Sphynx. Wilbur is about 6yo, started developing skin allergies and horrible rush & red bumps within last year. The vet first prescribed antibiotics and probiotics but neither worked. The skin allergies looked terrible on him but did not seem to bother him. About half a year later he started having runny poop and the cover for his litter box would look like someone just sprayed it with a hose full of poop. The stool got worse, from runny to watery.
I took him to see a different vet from the same vet clinic and they suggested steroids and a prescription diet, Royal Canine hydrolyzed protein, supposedly, the hydrolyzed protein was going to help with the digestion and skin condition would improve as well. He would not eat the soy hydrolyzed protein prescription food and lost about 20% of his weight so there is just skin and bones, he looks terrible and he would scream all the time. It would get worse as he smells human food or dog's canned food when I feed our dogs. The vet suggested sticking to the prescription food and not giving in to his yelling, as the hydrolyzed soy protein is the only food he can have - they diagnosed him with IBD and said that he can not have any animal protein as his GI tract is terribly inflamed and he does not absorb and can not digest any animal protein. He was checked for giardia and the vet run a stool sample to check for any possible bacteria and did not find anything abnormal. Before I took him to the vet I tried virtually all cat food on the market, tried feeding rabbit, tried feeding raw and his stool was always runny. The vet also said that constant switching food worsens his GI issues. I need to say that soy protein kibble did help with the stool a little bit - he is not pooping as often, it does not have that horrible foul smell and the poop is more creamy than watery, however, his skin still looks bad, he hasn't put on any weight in over a month and he is constantly screaming bloody murder, I mean, all.the.time. It is hard to deal with as it almost sounds like a non-stop crying baby and he got pretty desperate and aggressive with human food when he smells it - I mean, he is fighting me, climbing the cabinets, tries to steal dog food while they are eating... I am not sure it is just a temper tantrum, I feel like I am starving the guy as he barely touches his prescription food, although the vet put him on appetite stimulant - Mirtazapine; the idea was that he would be so hungry he would eat the prescription food. Well, he is very hungry and he does not like his prescription food and can not have anything else...
He is currently also on Cerenia (anti-nausea medication), Buprenex (pain medicine) and had two rounds of metronidazole (antibiotic).
After about a month on prescription food, all the medications, and his screaming, I gave in and decided to feed him some Instinct rabbit formula canned food... He wolfed the food as he had been starving for months and calmed down. Did not hear a sound from him for the rest of the night. However, the price to pay for that the next day was his worsened diarrhea. I am back to Royal Canine hydrolyzed soy protein again and feel as it is a catch 22 for both of us: he seems to be very hungry and does not like his soy food and he can not have any other food as it worsens his IBD. I can not deal with a constant loud, unhappy meowing anymore if I do not feed him something else and I can not clean diarrhea paw prints off of kitchen table, stove, refrigerator, and all the countertops that he jumps on when he comes out of his litter box with runny poop on his feet after he eats something other than his soy food. I am desperate and tired and it is very painful to watch him, skinny, hungry, and unhappy. I was wondering if anyone here also had experience with severe IBD and got it somewhat under control?
I would appreciate any input.
 

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Sheldon13

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Ugh!!! Vets make me so mad! Cats are obligate carnivores not designed to eat freaking SOY. Its no wonder he’s hungry all the time. I know you said you’ve tried raw but have you tried a single protein, novel protein? Some people try with kangaroo or ostrich. It sounds like he may have a lot of food allergies so it may be your only option.


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I am sorry to hear you and your little one are going through all this... I don't have experience with IBD in a cat, however my dog had it. He was diagnosed after an exploratory surgery and biopsies. He was prescribed steroids, flagyl and rx hypoallergenic food. The best his stools looked were like chocolate pudding (sorry to be graphic). I would suggest a second opinion with an Internal Medicine vet if possible. Maybe they can suggest other options for medications. Royal Canin now makes a new food called ultamino. My sphynx is on it for her allergies it is also suitable for IBD pets if I am not mistaken. You can get it from Chewy with a prescription and it's a little cheaper and may be worth a try.

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Trying to catch up. Did your baby have tests for exactly what ingredients they are allergic to?


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@WilburTheSphynx ((((biggest hugs)))) and positive vibe head smooches to sweet Wilbur.

brainstorming.
any recent blood work to share?
thyroid values? check for hyperthyroidism... that can have weight loss poo issues and vocalization as a sign


also, some members shared in the past to rule out crypto or tritrichomonas lesser heard of than giardia, and takes different meds
 

WilburTheSphynx

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Ugh!!! Vets make me so mad! Cats are obligate carnivores not designed to eat freaking SOY. Its no wonder he’s hungry all the time. I know you said you’ve tried raw but have you tried a single protein, novel protein? Some people try with kangaroo or ostrich. It sounds like he may have a lot of food allergies so it may be your only option.


Love and Sphynx ~ It’s all you need

I have not tried kangaroo or ostrich, just duck, rabbit, turkey, chicken, and beef. He seemed to like beef a lot, I would bake a lean sirloin for him in an air fryer and then shred it in small pieces. He loved that but his stool worsened after that and he would also puke with indigested meat. Poor guy seems to not be able to absorb the nutrients and either puke it out or poop it out. He's just melting away, I think he lost another pound over the last three-four weeks.
 

WilburTheSphynx

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I am sorry to hear you and your little one are going through all this... I don't have experience with IBD in a cat, however my dog had it. He was diagnosed after an exploratory surgery and biopsies. He was prescribed steroids, flagyl and rx hypoallergenic food. The best his stools looked were like chocolate pudding (sorry to be graphic). I would suggest a second opinion with an Internal Medicine vet if possible. Maybe they can suggest other options for medications. Royal Canin now makes a new food called ultamino. My sphynx is on it for her allergies it is also suitable for IBD pets if I am not mistaken. You can get it from Chewy with a prescription and it's a little cheaper and may be worth a try.

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Thank you! I think I should get a second opinion, too. I trust the veterinarian and maybe it would be good to just brainstorm other options. I will also look into the Royal Canine Ultamino food. Steroids helped his skin allergies but loosen his stool, when he was on it.
 

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@WilburTheSphynx ((((biggest hugs)))) and positive vibe head smooches to sweet Wilbur.

brainstorming.
any recent blood work to share?
thyroid values? check for hyperthyroidism... that can have weight loss poo issues and vocalization as a sign


also, some members shared in the past to rule out crypto or tritrichomonas lesser heard of than giardia, and takes different meds
He had broad panel blood work done and they did not see anything concerning, however, I do not have the details of the test. Last time he was at the clinic they did check his stool for everything they could and did find a lot of bacteria but no infections. He was prescribed Purina probiotics but I have not seen any improvement from that.
 

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No, do they do blood work or how is it done?

My girl was allergy tested they did both blood allergy testing and a few Poke tests (that were not in the blood panel) She had been on allergy serum injections now for almost a year and a half now. They say that you don't start to see full results until 18 months to 2 years and we were seeing them as early as 7-8 months.
 

WilburTheSphynx

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My girl was allergy tested they did both blood allergy testing and a few Poke tests (that were not in the blood panel) She had been on allergy serum injections now for almost a year and a half now. They say that you don't start to see full results until 18 months to 2 years and we were seeing them as early as 7-8 months.
Oh wow, did I read that right? No improvement from serum for 18to 24 months???
 

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Yeah, that what I have heard. Usually though if it is working you will see results in 12 months. I was desperate though for something. She was getting multiple skin infections and we were at the vet almost every 3 weeks for antibiotics and antifungal prescriptions along with medicated baths every 3-4 days. I was at my wits end trying to get her some relief.
 

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@WilburTheSphynx Where are you located? If you are near a university that has a veterinary school, that is where I'd go. Vet Vets that teach in vet schools have seen it all. In addition they have state of the art equipment at their disposal. You are bound to get the most objective advice there. A lot of times they even charge less so it's really a win-win.

This won't be solved overnight. As I said above, if Wilbur has inflammation he is not absorbing nutrients no matter what you feed him. I really believe the article I linked could be the way to go, but I am so worried because Wilbur is obviously underweight. His nutritional imbalance could be causing some organs to work harder; a vet could tell you for sure. If it comes to that I don't think you've got much time to spare.
 

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@WilburTheSphynx Where are you located? If you are near a university that has a veterinary school, that is where I'd go. Vet Vets that teach in vet schools have seen it all. In addition they have state of the art equipment at their disposal. You are bound to get the most objective advice there. A lot of times they even charge less so it's really a win-win.

This won't be solved overnight. As I said above, if Wilbur has inflammation he is not absorbing nutrients no matter what you feed him. I really believe the article I linked could be the way to go, but I am so worried because Wilbur is obviously underweight. His nutritional imbalance could be causing some organs to work harder; a vet could tell you for sure. If it comes to that I don't think you've got much time to spare.
Thank you. I am 30 miles south of Portland, OR. There is an Oregon State University with a vet clinic, we were taking our horse there a while ago. I am contacting them today as he's melting away. Last night he pooped right in the middle of the living room, I do not think he knew what happened and then he vomited right. after that.
 

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Oh my goodness this poor sweet boy. Definitely something going on. I hope they can get to the bottom of it.


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Oh my word... poor darling.

Read these 2 articles. Go get some slippery elm bark powder and S. Boulardii probiotics. The first helps with vomiting (like a safe natural gut soothe) and the second helps with diarrhea. Both of these have saved my cat and my sanity.

Get on a raw, single ingredient diet. The Rx foods from the vet are no help for IBD... no matter what they tell you. Message me for more help if you want... I have been through SO much of this with my girl (whose is well managed now, thanks to diet and supplements).
 

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@WilburTheSphynx I would try a novel protein.

Such as:

kangaroo, goat, rabbit, venison no artificial colours flavours preservatives. Cooked in filtered water. Water for drinking in ceramic bowls.

I would only feed one of these proteins nothing else.

Keep a diary.

Limit exposure to chemicals perfumes household cleaning products perfumed laundry wash shampoo ETC.

SEE HERE Sphynx with Skin Conditions - What are you feeding?
 
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