Laulau may have IBD and has a slight heart murmur!!!

[Laulau]

Thank you!!!! Does anyone have a recipe I can follow? ❤❤❤

 

[Condo commando]

Thank you!!!! Does anyone have a recipe I can follow? ❤❤❤

You don't want to use the grinds that I posted links for? Please give us a better idea what exactly are you trying to make?

 

[Laulau]

@Condo commando Oh no I do I guess I'm still just a little confused so if I buy the grind turkey and Rabbit with the organs and bones then got a supplement I would be fine? Thank you for being so helpful I can barely get my own diet right haha, I have bad comprehension skills

 

[Condo commando]

@Laulau believe me I can relate, I put more time and effort into my cat food than my own food. Anyway yes, if you buy one of those grinds - which already include bone and organs - all you need to add is water and a supplement such as Alnutrin for Meat and Bone. I buy the Alnutrin directly from the company here Know What You Feed Your Cat - Shop Online

The Alnutrin comes in 2 sizes. One is loose powder that you need a kitchen scale to measure 4 grams per pound of meat. The other one is in little packages that you add 1 package per pound of meat. Your preference.

How much water is flexible to your cat's liking. It should be somewhere between a half cup and 1 full cup of water per pound of meat.

Pick either rabbit or turkey to start with. It might take a while if a cat is not used to it. I got a 5 year old cat that had eaten mostly kibble and he didn't want to eat raw at first. So I got rid of the kibble and gave him canned food which he liked. Then I started mixing in a little bit of raw with his canned food and little by little increased it until he was eating 100% raw. I did it with rabbit first. Then I got chicken and started mixing in a little bit of chicken with his rabbit until he was eating 100% chicken. Then I repeated again with turkey. Now he eats all 3, but the moral of the story is every time you might have to start by mixing in a new protein little by little with something they already know.

Last but not least, they should get some omega 3's in their diet. The cheapest way to do this is just to mix in some raw sardines or herring in their food. You can wait until you know for sure they are eating their meat before you add in fish but I would suggest you buy a package of fish when you order your turkey or rabbit so it's ready to go. Both of those online shops I referred you to sell raw ground herring and/or sardines.

 

[Laulau]

Thank you thank you!!!! I get it now!! Can't wait to start ....i have two cats... about how many you think I should get to last a month or two...i live in Hawaii so everything takes forever to get here haha

@Laulau believe me I can relate, I put more time and effort into my cat food than my own food. Anyway yes, if you buy one of those grinds - which already include bone and organs - all you need to add is water and a supplement such as Alnutrin for Meat and Bone. I buy the Alnutrin directly from the company here Know What You Feed Your Cat - Shop Online

The Alnutrin comes in 2 sizes. One is loose powder that you need a kitchen scale to measure 4 grams per pound of meat. The other one is in little packages that you add 1 package per pound of meat. Your preference.

How much water is flexible to your cat's liking. It should be somewhere between a half cup and 1 full cup of water per pound of meat.

Pick either rabbit or turkey to start with. It might take a while if a cat is not used to it. I got a 5 year old cat that had eaten mostly kibble and he didn't want to eat raw at first. So I got rid of the kibble and gave him canned food which he liked. Then I started mixing in a little bit of raw with his canned food and little by little increased it until he was eating 100% raw. I did it with rabbit first. Then I got chicken and started mixing in a little bit of chicken with his rabbit until he was eating 100% chicken. Then I repeated again with turkey. Now he eats all 3, but the moral of the story is every time you might have to start by mixing in a new protein little by little with something they already know.

Last but not least, they should get some omega 3's in their diet. The cheapest way to do this is just to mix in some raw sardines or herring in their food. You can wait until you know for sure they are eating their meat before you add in fish but I would suggest you buy a package of fish when you order your turkey or rabbit so it's ready to go. Both of those online shops I referred you to sell raw ground herring and/or sardines.

 

[Condo commando]

...i live in Hawaii so everything takes forever to get here haha

Oh my gosh I should have asked you where you were located because those places I gave you only ship to the 48 contiguous states

The good news is you can still make raw food....it will just take a bit more effort since you would need to source cuts of meat and grind it yourself. This is actually what I do so I can help you figure it out

The main thing is buy meat that has been frozen the whole time. Once meat gets to around 40 degrees it starts to grow bacteria so you don't want to buy it from the refrigerated section because there's no telling how long it's been dethawed. I was in the grocery store today and I was talking to the guy at the meat counter, and he told me the chicken in the refrigerated section comes off the truck to them like that and they have no way of knowing how long it's been dethawed. Of course, if you cook it there's no problem but you can't feed it raw. So hopefully, you can find frozen meats.

So let me explain how you do this.

First the ingredients....I think this will give you about 1 month worth of food for 2 cats:
8 lbs of bone-in chicken thighs (Walmart has this in 4-lb bags)
10 lbs of boneless turkey (or chicken but I use turkey for variety)
1.5 lbs of chicken or turkey liver
14 ounces (or 1 lb if it comes in 1 lb containers) of chicken or turkey hearts
82 grams of Alnutrin
9 to 12 cups of water....more water makes it more soupy; it just depends on what your cats like

I would suggest making it in 4 weekly batches so everything fits in one mixing bowl:
2 lbs of bone-in chicken
2.5 lbs of boneless turkey
6 ounces of liver - you can run this through a basic food chopper, not the grinder because it's so fragile
3.5 or 4 ounces of hearts - you can also run this through a basic food chopper
20-21 grams of Alnutrin
2.5-3 cups of water

For the first 2 ingredients (bone-in and boneless meat) you'll need to dethaw it, cut it into pieces no bigger than 2-3 inches so they can go through the grinder, and finally put the pieces through a grinder. I have this grinder which I bought used off eBay and it works great:
Tasin TS-108 Electric Meat Grinder, #12, Stainless Steel, Raw Pet Food Making

The last 2 ingredients are so fragile I just run them through my little food chopper for a few seconds and that's all it takes. I think the grinder would be too rough for them.

Put all the meat, liver and hearts in a large mixing bowl and mix it together. In a separate bowl, put the Alnutrin and add the water, then stir it up. Pour this slurry mixture over the meat. Stir it and let the liquid get absorbed into the meat.

You'll need to buy some 8 ounce plastic containers to freeze the food in. Also need to figure out how much your cats eat, but I would start with 3 ounces twice a day per cat. So I would put 6 ounces in the container which is one meal for both cats. Keep a couple of containers in the fridge ready to feed, and keep the rest frozen. Every time you use one out of the fridge, you take one from the freezer to replace it.

Another option is you can freeze the food in ice cube trays. Each cube is about an ounce of food. That way you have flexibility until you know exactly how much each cat eats.

I think that covers it but let me know if you have any questions. I really think the hardest part is finding the meat frozen. If you can't find it in a big grocery store, try butcher shops because they can usually order it for you (at least on the mainland).